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Kasım 2015

Bora Kasap, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Evli insanlar eşlerini neden aldatır?

Her iki bireyin de psikolojilerinin sağlıklı olduğunu varsayarak konuşuyorum.
Özet geçmek gerekirse, bir ilişkide 3 ihtiyaç vardır. 3 ihtiyacın 3'ü de tek partner tarafından karşılanamıyorsa bireyler bu ihtiyaçlarını başka kişilerde karşılamaya çalışırlar. Bundan daha basit bir denklem olamazdı zaten...

Ekim 2015

Mavi Anka, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Evlilikten korkuyor musunuz? Neden?

Gerikafalı olanından korkuyorum.
Çünkü gerikafalı mantıkta aileler iki kişi arasına girerler ve partnerler birbirlerini normalden daha fazla alttan almaya, birbirlerini daha fazla idare etmeye başlarlar. Eleştirel ve sorgulayan yaklaşım son bulur ve taraflar birbirileri üzerindeki "geliştirici" ve "değiştirici" hatta "etkileyici" etkilerini kaybetmeye başlarlar. Zaten genelde insanlar değişmezler, değişmemeleri de haklarıdır, fakat gerikafalı evlilik eğer iki kişi arasında kültürel bir eşitlenme gerekiyorsa, bunu durdurur. Kimse hayatını partnerini alttan alarak ya da idare ederek sürdürmek istemez.
Ben bu bakımdan, evlenmek istemeyen bir kadınla evlenmek isterdim. . .
Ekim 2015

Elif Aygün, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Evli insanlar eşlerini neden aldatır?

Bence bunun bir çok sebebi vardır. Zannımca en temeli ve önemlisi evin beyinin ev Kapısında güzel karşılanmamasıdır. Bir söz duymuştum ve bana çok Anlamlı gelmiştir ' pijama evliliği bitiren sebeplerden biridir ' . Izaha ihtiyaç duyulursa yani bir Hanım'ın erkeğine kapıyı iş yaptığınyemek yaptığı kıyafetlerle kapıyı açması erkeği evden soğutur. Kadının ev içerirsin de bakımlı olması her zaman erkeği eve bağlayan sebeplerden biridir.
Ekim 2015

Alperen Baykal , bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Evli insanlar eşlerini neden aldatır?

Kadın ya da erkek olsun aldatanların çoğunda, geçmiş yaşantılarında, özellikle çocukluk dönemlerinde yaşanan duygu yoksunlukları ve sevgisizlikler göze çarpıyor. Böyle tiplerin her biri mutlaka psikolojik sorunlarla boğuşan, farkında olsun veya olmasınlar psikolojik tedavi ihtiyacı olan bireylerdir. Genel olarak hayatları süresince akıl sağlıkları pek yerinde olmadıklarından sağlıklı birliktelikler kuramazlar.
Ağustos 2015

Zerreyim, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Erkekler neden kadınlarını aldatırlar?

Evlilikte sevgisini fiziksel güzelliğe bina edenlerin zamanla eşlerindeki o güzelliğin azalmasıyla (şişmanlama ve yaşlılık) gibi sorunlar erkeği aldatmaya itiyor. O nedenle evlilikte eşlerin birbirini iç güzelliği ile tanıyıp sevmeleri bu sorunu ortadan kaldırır çünkü eşim ihtiyar olsa da cennette ebedi bir güzelliği var deyip ona olan muhabbeti artar. İslama göre evlilik
Mayıs 2015

Kardelen Kuruçay, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Eğitim düzeyi aynı olmayan iki kişinin mutlu bir evlilik sürdürmesi mümkün müdür?

Eğitim düzeyinin büyük önemi olduğunu düşünenlerdenim. Çünkü belli bir yere gelince sizi pişman edecek sebepler oluşuyor.
Aralık 2014

Serkan Kiose  yeni bir  gönderide  bulundu.

How we end up marrying the wrong people

Anyone we could marry would, of course, be a little wrong for us. It is wise to be appropriately pessimistic here. Perfection is not on the cards. Unhappiness is a constant. Nevertheless, one encounters some couples of such primal, grinding mismatch, such deep-seated incompatibility, that one has to conclude that something else is at play beyond the normal disappointments and tensions of every long-term relationship: some people simply shouldn’t be together.

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How do the errors happen? With appalling ease and regularity. Given that marrying the wrong person is about the single easiest and also costliest mistake any of us can make (and one which places an enormous burden on the state, employers and the next generation), it is extraordinary, and almost criminal, that the issue of marrying intelligently is not more systematically addressed at a national and personal level, as road safety or smoking are.
It’s all the sadder because in truth, the reasons why people make the wrong choices are easy to lay out and unsurprising in their structure. They tend to fall into some of the following basic categories.

One: We don’t understand ourselves
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When first looking out for a partner, the requirements we come up with are coloured by a beautiful non-specific sentimental vagueness: we’ll say we really want to find someone who is ‘kind’ or ‘fun to be with’, ‘attractive’ or ‘up for adventure…’
It isn’t that such desires are wrong, they are just not remotely precise enough in their understanding of what we
in particular are going to require in order to stand a chance of being happy – or, more accurately, not consistently miserable.

All of us are crazy in very particular ways. We’re distinctively neurotic, unbalanced and immature, but don’t know quite the details because no one ever encourages us too hard to find them out. An urgent, primary task of any lover is therefore to get a handle on the specific ways in which they are mad. They have to get up to speed on their individual neuroses. They have to grasp where these have come from, what they make them do – and most importantly, what sort of people either provoke or assuage them. A good partnership is not so much one between two healthy people (there aren’t many of these on the planet), it’s one between two demented people who have had the skill or luck to find a non-threatening conscious accommodation between their relative insanities.
The very idea that we might not be too difficult as people should set off alarm bells in any prospective partner. The question is just where the problems will lie: perhaps we have a latent tendency to get furious when someone disagrees with us, or we can only relax when we are working, or we’re a bit tricky around intimacy after sex, or we’ve never been so good at explaining what’s going on when we’re worried. It’s these sort of issues that – over decades – create catastrophes and that we therefore need to know about way ahead of time, in order to look out for people who are optimally designed to withstand them. A standard question on any early dinner date should be quite simply: ‘And how are you mad? ’

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The problem is that knowledge of our own neuroses is not at all easy to come by. It can take years and situations we have had no experience of. Prior to marriage, we’re rarely involved in dynamics that properly hold up a mirror to our disturbances. Whenever more casual relationships threaten to reveal the ‘difficult’ side of our natures, we tend to blame the partner – and call it a day. As for our friends, they predictably don’t care enough about us to have any motive to probe our real selves. They only want a nice evening out. Therefore, we end up blind to the awkward sides of our natures. On our own, when we’re furious, we don’t shout, as there’s no one there to listen – and therefore we overlook the true, worrying strength of our capacity for fury. Or we work all the time without grasping, because there’s no one calling us to come for dinner, how we manically use work to gain a sense of control over life – and how we might cause hell if anyone tried to stop us. At night, all we’re aware of is how sweet it would be to cuddle with someone, but we have no opportunity to face up to the intimacy-avoiding side of us that would start to make us cold and strange if ever it felt we were too deeply committed to someone. One of the greatest privileges of being on one’s own is the flattering illusion that one is, in truth, really quite an easy person to live with.
With such a poor level of understanding of our characters, no wonder we aren’t in any position to know who we should be looking out for.

Two: We don’t understand other people
This problem is compounded because other people are stuck at the same low level of self-knowledge as we are. However well-meaning they might be, they too are in no position to grasp, let alone inform us, of what is wrong with them.
Naturally, we make a stab at trying to know them. We go and visit their families, perhaps the place they first went to school. We look at photos, we meet their friends. All this contributes to a sense we’ve done our homework. But it’s like a novice pilot assuming they can fly after sending a paper plane successfully around the room.

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In a wiser society, prospective partners would put each other through detailed psychological questionnaires and send themselves off to be assessed at length by teams of psychologists. By 2100, this will no longer sound like a joke. The mystery will be why it took humanity so long to get to this point.
We need to know the intimate functioning of the psyche of the person we’re planning to marry. We need to know their attitudes to, or stance on, authority, humiliation, introspection, sexual intimacy, projection, money, children, aging, fidelity and a hundred things besides. This knowledge won’t be available via a standard chat.

In the absence of all this, we are led – in large part – by what they look like. There seems to be so much information to be gleaned from their eyes, nose, shape of forehead, distribution of freckles, smiles… But this is about as wise as thinking that a photograph of the outside of a power station can tell us everything we need to know about nuclear fission.

We ‘project’ a range of perfections into the beloved on the basis of only a little evidence. In elaborating a whole personality from a few small – but hugely evocative – details, we are doing for the inner character of a person what our eyes naturally do with the sketch of a face.

We don’t see this as a picture of someone who has no nostrils, eight strands of hair and no eyelashes. Without even noticing that we are doing it, we fill in the missing parts. Our brains are primed to take tiny visual hints and construct entire figures from them – and we do the same when it comes to the character of our prospective spouse. We are – much more than we give ourselves credit for, and to our great cost – inveterate artists of elaboration.
The level of knowledge we need for a marriage to work is higher than our society is prepared to countenance, recognise and accommodate for – and therefore our social practices around getting married are deeply wrong.

Three: We aren’t used to being happy
We believe we seek happiness in love, but it’s not quite as simple. What at times it seems we actually seek is familiarity – which may well complicate any plans we might have for happiness.
We recreate in adult relationships some of the feelings we knew in childhood. It was as children that we first came to know and understand what love meant. But unfortunately, the lessons we picked up may not have been straightforward. The love we knew as children may have come entwined with other, less pleasant dynamics: being controlled, feeling humiliated, being abandoned, never communicating, in short: suffering.
As adults, we may then reject certain healthy candidates whom we encounter, not because they are wrong, but precisely because they are too well-balanced (too mature, too understanding, too reliable), and this rightness feels unfamiliar and alien, almost oppressive. We head instead to candidates whom our unconscious is drawn to, not because they will please us, but because they will frustrate us in familiar ways.
We marry the wrong people because the right ones feel wrong – undeserved; because we have no experience of health, because we don’t ultimately associate being loved with feeling satisfied.

Four: Being single is so awful
One is never in a good frame of mind to choose a partner rationally when remaining single is unbearable. We have to be utterly at peace with the prospect of many years of solitude in order to have any chance of forming a good relationship. Or we’ll love no longer being single rather more than we love the partner who spared us being so.
Unfortunately, after a certain age, society makes singlehood dangerously unpleasant. Communal life starts to wither, couples are too threatened by the independence of the single to invite them around very often, one starts to feel a freak when going to the cinema alone. Sex is hard to come by as well. For all the new gadgets and supposed freedoms of modernity, it can be very hard to get laid – and expecting to do so regularly with new people is bound to end in disappointment after 30.

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Far better to rearrange society so that it resembles a university or a kibbutz – with communal eating, shared facilities, constant parties and free sexual mingling… That way, anyone who did decide marriage was for them would be sure they were doing it for the positives of coupledom rather than as an escape from the negatives of singlehood.
When sex was only available within marriage, people recognised that this led people to marry for the wrong reasons: to obtain something that was artificially restricted in society as a whole. People are free to make much better choices about who they marry now they’re not simply responding to a desperate desire for sex.
But we retain shortages in other areas. When company is only properly available in couples, people will pair up just to spare themselves loneliness. It’s time to liberate ‘companionship’ from the shackles of coupledom, and make it as widely and as easily available as sexual liberators wanted sex to be.

Five: Instinct has too much prestige
Back in the olden days, marriage was a rational business; all to do with matching your bit of land with theirs. It was cold, ruthless and disconnected from the happiness of the protagonists. We are still traumatised by this.
What replaced the marriage of reason was the marriage of instinct, the Romantic marriage. It dictated that how one felt about someone should be the only guide to marriage. If one felt ‘in love’, that was enough. No more questions asked. Feeling was triumphant. Outsiders could only applaud the feeling’s arrival, respecting it as one might the visitation of a divine spirit. Parents might be aghast, but they had to suppose that only the couple could ever know. We have for three hundred years been in collective reaction against thousands of years of very unhelpful interference based on prejudice, snobbery and lack of imagination.
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So pedantic and cautious was the old ‘marriage of reason’ that one of the features of the marriage of feeling is its belief that one shouldn’t think too much about why one is marrying. To analyse the decision feels ‘un-Romantic’. To write out charts of pros and cons seems absurd and cold. The most Romantic thing one can do is just to propose quickly and suddenly, perhaps after only a few weeks, in a rush of enthusiasm – without any chance to do the horrible ‘reasoning’ that guaranteed misery to people for thousands of years previously. The recklessness at play seems a sign that the marriage can work, precisely because the old kind of ‘safety’ was such a danger to one’s happiness.

Six: We don’t go to Schools of Love
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The time has come for a third kind of marriage. The marriage of psychology. One where one doesn’t marry for land, or for ‘the feeling’ alone, but only when ‘the feeling’ has been properly submitted to examination and brought under the aegis of a mature awareness of one’s own and the other’s psychology.
Presently, we marry without any information. We almost never read books specifically on the subject, we never spend more than a short time with children, we don’t rigorously interrogate other married couples or speak with any sincerity to divorced ones. We go into it without any insightful reasons as to why marriages fail – beyond what we presume to be the idiocy or lack of imagination of their protagonists.
In the age of the marriage of reason, one might have considered the following criteria when marrying:
- who are their parents
- how much land do they have
- how culturally similar are they
In the Romantic age, one might have looked out for the following signs to determine rightness:
- one can’t stop thinking of a lover
- one is sexually obsessed
- one thinks they are amazing
- one longs to talk to them all the time
We need a new set of criteria. We should wonder:
- how are they mad
- how can one raise children with them
- how can one develop together
- how can one remain friends

Seven: We want to freeze happiness
We have a desperate and fateful urge to try to make nice things permanent. We want to own the car we like, we want to live in the country we enjoyed as a tourist. And we want to marry the person we are having a terrific time with.
We imagine that marriage is a guarantor of the happiness we’re enjoying with someone. It will make permanent what might otherwise be fleeting. It will help us to bottle our joy – the joy we felt when the thought of proposing first came to us: we were in Venice, on the lagoon, in a motorboat, with the evening sun throwing gold flakes across the sea, the prospect of dinner in a little fish restaurant, our beloved in a cashmere jumper in our arms… We got married to make this feeling permanent.
Unfortunately, there is no causal necessary connection between marriage and this sort of feeling. The feeling was produced by Venice, a time of day, a lack of work, an excitement at dinner, a two month acquaintance with someone… none of which ‘marriage’ increases or guarantees.
Marriage doesn’t freeze the moment at all. That moment was dependent on the fact that you had only known each other for a bit, that you weren’t working, that you were staying in a beautiful hotel near the Grand Canal, that you’d had a pleasant afternoon in the Guggenheim museum, that you’d just had a chocolate gelato…
Getting married has no power to keep a relationship at this beautiful stage. It is not in command of the ingredients of our happiness at that point. In fact, marriage will decisively move the relationship on to another, very different moment: to a suburban house, a long commute, two small children. The only ingredient in common is the partner. And that might have been the wrong ingredient to bottle.
The Impressionist painters of the nineteenth century had an implicit philosophy of transience that points us in a wiser direction. They accepted the transience of happiness as an inherent feature of existence and could in turn help us to grow more at peace with it. Sisley’s painting of a winter scene in France focuses on a set of attractive but utterly fugitive things. Towards dusk, the sun nearly breaks through the landscape. For a little time, the glow of the sky makes the bare branches less severe. The snow and the grey walls have a quiet harmony; the cold seems manageable, almost exciting. In a few minutes, night will close in.
277Alfred Sisley,
The Watering Place at Marly-le-Roi, 1875

Impressionism is interested in the fact that the things we love most change, are only around a very short time and then disappear. It celebrates the sort of happiness that lasts a few minutes, rather than years. In this painting, the snow looks lovely; but it will melt. The sky is beautiful at this moment, but it is about to go dark. This style of art cultivates a skill that extends far beyond art itself: a skill at accepting and attending to short-lived moments of satisfaction.
The peaks of life tend to be brief. Happiness doesn’t come in year-long blocks. With the Impressionists to guide us, we should be ready to appreciate isolated moments of everyday paradise whenever they come our way, without making the mistake of thinking them permanent; without the need to turn them into a ‘marriage’.

Eight: We believe we are special
The statistics are not encouraging. Everyone has before them plenty of examples of terrible marriages. They’ve seen their friends try it and come unstuck. They know perfectly well that – in general – marriages face immense challenges. And yet we do not easily apply this insight to our own case. Without specifically formulating it, we assume that this is a rule that applies to other people.
That’s because a raw statistical chance of one in two of failing at marriage seems wholly acceptable, given that – when one is in love – one feels one has already beaten far more extraordinary odds. The beloved feels like around one in a million. With such a winning streak, the gamble of marrying a person seem entirely containable.
We silently exclude ourselves from the generalisation. We’re not to be blamed for this. But we could benefit from being encouraged to see ourselves as exposed to the general fate.

Nine: We want to stop thinking about Love
Before we get married, we are likely to have had many years of turbulence in our love lives. We have tried to get together with people who didn’t like us, we’ve started and broken up unions, we’ve gone out for endless parties, in the hope of meeting someone, and known excitement and bitter disappointments.
No wonder if, at a certain point, we have enough of all that. Part of the reason we feel like getting married is to interrupt the all-consuming grip that love has over our psyches. We are exhausted by the melodramas and thrills that go nowhere. We are restless for other challenges. We hope that marriage can conclusively end love’s painful rule over our lives.
It can’t and won’t: there is as much doubt, hope, fear, rejection and betrayal in a marriage as there is in single life. It’s only from the outside that a marriage looks peaceful, uneventful and nicely boring.
Preparing us for marriage is, ideally, an educational task that falls on culture as a whole. We have stopped believing in dynastic marriages. We are starting to see the drawbacks of Romantic marriages. Now comes the time for psychological marriages. . .
Eylül 2014

Hanife Kadir, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Sadece şefkat ve merhamet beslediğiniz, sizi çok sevdiğini söyleyen biriyle evlenir miydiniz? Evlenildiği takdirde ne tür sorunlarla karşılaşılabilir?

Bu sorunun yanıtı durumsal ve kişisel olarak değişir bence,, belki de çok sevmesi sizi de etkiler ve şefkat sevgiye dönüşür,, bilemem... Ama kişi beklentilerini iyi tespit etmeli ve ona göre evlenmeli... Yalnızca karşı tarafın sevgisi olsun, ilişkimizde saygı, şefkat olsun diye düşünüyorsa evlenebilir tabi... Zaten sorunsuz bir hayat olmadığı gibi sorunsuz bir ilişki de olmaz herhalde... Birtakım sorunları olunca daha rahat atlatabilir, beklentileri doğrultusunda evlenen kişi bence...
Eylül 2014

Winterwitch, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Evlilikten korkuyor musunuz? Neden?

Evlilikten korkmuyorum çünkü sırf evlenmiş olmak için evlenme gibi bir niyetim yok. Eğer istersem evlenirim. Dolayısıyla korkuya yer yok. Evlilikten birçok nedenden korkuluyor günümüzde başta sadakatsizlik, ilgisizlik, monoton bir hayat gibi... Şunu unutmayınız ki hayatı monoton yapan yine bizleriz. Evlilikleri tüketen yine bizleriz. Evlilikte bir risktir ancak alınmaya değer. Tabi şöyle birşey var herkes evlenmek zorunda değil böyle bir zorunlulukta yoktur. Evlilikte alınan risk şudur çok mükemmel bir evlilikte bitebilir çok uyumsuz bir evlilikte zamanla güzelleşebilir. Birgün boşanırsanız ilk boşanan çift olmayacaksınız son boşanan çiftte olmayacaksınız.
En başında başımıza nelerin gelebileceğini bilmemiz olanaksız. Tabi şartları göz ardı etmekte mantıksız. Sırf karşımıza biri çıktı diye pat diye evlenirsek genel olarak iyi bir boşanma avukatı yanında sonuçlanıyor evlilikler. Biraz çocuk oyuncağı haline gelmiş durumda. Acele alınan kararlar, hemen çocuk yapmak, ailelerle çok fazla yüzgöz olmak, çocuğu eşten önce tutmak, zamanla üşengeç bıkkın bir insana dönmek... Böyle sorunları mininum tutarak maksimum keyif almak daha mantıklı.
Ben evlilikten korkmuyorum evlenirsem bu benim seçimim olacaktır. Korkarak hayat yaşanılmıyor maalesef.
Eylül 2014

Abdullah Gürel, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Evlilikten korkuyor musunuz? Neden?

Zamanı gelince hayır ama şimdi evet
Eylül 2014

Ayşen Ak, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

Evlilikten korkuyor musunuz? Neden?

Biraz korku var sanki her şey yavaşlayacak gibi geliyor böyle bir sorumluluk, zorunluluk. Ya birbirimizden sıkılırsak? Ya hiçbirşey istediğimiz gibi gitmezse? Olan huzuru bozmak da var işin ucunda.
Bir taraftan da evlenmeli insan diye düşünüyorum zaman gelecek yanımızda kimse kalmayacak gençlik dönemi sona erdiğinde yine bir şeyler yavaşlayacak, yalnız olduğumuzu anlayacağız.
Eylül 2014

Rıdvan Bayhan, bir soruya yanıt verdi.

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